More Fookin' Seagulls

The incident is believed to relate to a row over the shooting of seagulls. Picture: Kimberley Powell

The Scotsman had a lively batch of readers' comments on the Balintore seagull shooting incident reported the other day and like most internet 'debates' some people's observations were more off the wall than others.

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mbf001

11:23 AM on 08/07/2014
SEE BORED VILLAGES

Sorry about the poor woman who was shot. It must take alot of skill to line up your face with an airgun pellet from even 50 metres away.

Them thar seagulls in Balintore are crossbred with the man-eating elephants that are bred by the mad scientist who lives on the hill. When they land on roofs the ridges sag, chidren and adults flee in abject fear and village streets are deserted in seconds.

Y'can see it coming can't you? Now there'll be a judge-led public enquiry and possibly the matter will be referred to the European Court of Seagull Rights that 5,042 overpaid, superfluous Eurocrats are hurriedly setting up now.
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LachieStephen

11:11 AM on 08/07/2014
I'm surprised The Hoostmon is allowing comments on this case.

Does "sub judice" not apply here?
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Orpheum

9:37 AM on 08/07/2014
For Information; In British Columbia Canada, anyone found guilty of killing non regulated wildlife faces a fine of up to $5K and up to ten years in jail. Feeding wild birds is also illegal.
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Agammemnon

9:21 AM on 08/07/2014
The Chorus rejoices that nothing has changed in dear auld Brigadoon - same up there as in Glesga! And they call it 'vibrant'!
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Nellie

9:20 AM on 08/07/2014
The investigation ought to go further than just the shooting of a person in the face: Cruelty to animals (including birds) is an offence, and shooting a seagull with an airgun is almost certainly cruel as it would take a very lucky shot, or an experienced marksman, to kill one outright in one shot or even two. It would also be an offence to kill one on, or near, its nest.
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John McVey

6:17 AM on 08/07/2014
The seagull's name was Nelson.
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Slippy Lizard

3:34 AM on 08/07/2014
I'm now fully expecting the SNP to appoint a minister of seagulls.
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GersInCanada

2:55 AM on 08/07/2014
Johnathan Livingson ?
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Charles Linskaill12:56 AM on 08/07/2014

Jail the Ape-Woman who shot her neighbour!, This Woman is even an insult to the Animal Race!, We Neither Need nor want people like her in our World of today,


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saveoorlums

12:32 AM on 08/07/2014
PUT THAT LIGHT OUT AND GET TO SLEEP>>>>YES DEAR>>>
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saveoorlums

12:27 AM on 08/07/2014
Maybe the people of BALINTORE were hungry and the food bank was shut
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Pauli St

1:41 PM on 07/07/2014
Surely it would be a "Hitchcock"
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g40moo

12:37 PM on 07/07/2014
if this was a film it would be directed by sam peckinpa

M78

12:03 PM on 07/07/2014
Where will the next idiotic comment come from? Linskaill perhaps?
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Heart of Oak

11:53 AM on 07/07/2014
There should be a cull. Far too many of these flying rats. In the area where we live, there were 4 seagull nests built on the the flat dormer roofs. Of these four nests, not one produced young birds. Lol.
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Try Again

10:19 AM on 07/07/2014
Seagulls were in the news recently for attacking people, It was bad enough being dive bombed when the worst that would happen is you got covered in smelly stuff. Now they have guns we are in serious trouble. Whoever sold them these weapons should be jailed for life.
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BEAM ME UP SALMOND

10:09 AM on 07/07/2014
Seagulls are now allegedly shooting people

Its an outrage


More Fookin' Seagulls (8 July 2014)


The BBC reports on a nasty incident in Easter Ross (in the far north of Scotland) which seems to have involved the shooting of seagulls.

Now I'm sorry to hear that a person appears to have been injured as a result of the incident, but for a moment I was encouraged to believe that the authorities had at last seen the light on the need to tackle the menace of these foul birds.

Woman shot in face in 'row about seagulls' in Balintore

A woman has been shot in the face by an air rifle following an argument in Balintore, Easter Ross, in the early hours of Sunday.

It is understood she had been involved in a row about the shooting of seagulls.

The woman was taken to Raigmore Hospital in Inverness.

Police stationed in Alness and Tain were at the scene for several hours and are continuing their inquiries into the incident.

A report will be sent to the procurator fiscal.


More Fookin' Seagulls (1 June 2014)


After so many setbacks in my campaign against Fookin' Seagulls, some good news at last - the High Court has sanctioned a cull of these dreadful creatures in the Ribble and Alt Estuaries.

Now I don't even know where the Ribble and Alt Estuaries are, but who cares?  

The point is that someone has listened to reason at long last and concluded that these birds are a dangerous menace not an endangered species - and that such enlightened thinking will now make its way, irresistibly, northwards towards Glasgow. 


RSPB loses case to stop seagull cull on Lancashire coast

The charity said Defra had set a worrying precedent for bird conservation


By KASHMIRA GANDER - The Independent

The High Court has upheld a ruling to cull lesser black-backed seagulls in the Lancashire coast, a day after campaigners said they fear the Government plans to trap and kill beavers in Devon.

The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) argued that by sanctioning a cull in the Ribble Estuary by an aviation firm, the Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) set a dangerous and unlawful precedent for bird conservation in the UK.

It launched the case after Defra granted British Aerospace Systems (BAE) a licence to cull 552 pairs of breeding less black-backed gulls and herring gulls in the Ribble and Alt Estuaries Special Protection Area last May.

This was in addition to permission BAE was given to cull 500 pairs of Herring Gulls and 200 pairs of less black-back gulls at the same site.

The charity said that it understood BAE had explored all other avenues, and must cull the birds in order to stop them posing a safety risk by getting sucked into jet engines.

But it said it was particularly concerned that the Secretary of State thought it was acceptable to lose up to a fifth of a breeding population at a protected site.

However, Mr Justice Mitting ruled that the charity’s claims were “unfounded”, and dismissed the RSPB's application for judicial review. He also ordered that the charity pay £10,000 in legal costs.

A beaver mounts a log (Getty Images)

The ruling comes a day after campaigners told The Independent that Defra was considering culling River Otters in Devon - a consideration the department said should be on the table, but has no current plans of implementing.

Responding to the judgement, the RSPB said: “This judgment is deeply worrying as we believe it fundamentally misinterprets the law as it relates to protecting birds.

“The judge appears to condone the Government writing off part of why the Ribble Estuary is important for nature conservation without compensation measures and, as such, sets a deeply disturbing precedent for our most important sites for wildlife – we are urgently looking at our options to appeal this judgment.”

BAE said in a statement after the ruling: “We believe that a reduction in the gull population will reduce the risk of a bird strike incident on or in the vicinity of Warton aerodrome, and therefore will ensure the safety and well-being of local residents, aircrew and employees.”


Fookin' Seagulls (25 May 2014)



I was sad to read this BBC report which deals with one of my greatest pet hates of all time - Fookin' Seagulls. 

Now to be honest I blame the bureaucrats and politicians for making a protected species of this horrible pest and if you ask me, these could birds are nothing but a blight on our inner cities.

So why are they offered special protection, as if they're on a par with Golden Eagles and Ospreys? 

And while I can understand that it's difficult to hold a particular building owner responsible for a specific attack, I do think there should be an obligation on all property owners to prevent seagulls from nesting on their roofs - which is where the problems start.

I take my hat off to Cathie Kelly for highlighting the problem, maybe one of these days our councils and politicians will do something other than wring their hands. 


Cathie Kelly loses seagull swoop injury compensation bid 


Cathie Kelly raised an action for damages against the owners of the building

A woman who claimed she was hurt by a swooping seagull has lost her legal bid for £7,000 damages.

Cathie Kelly said she stumbled on steps as she tried to escape the "terrifying" dive-bombing bird outside the Ladyburn business centre in Greenock.

She said the building's owners had not taken sufficient care of her safety.

A judge at the Court of Session rejected her case after hearing that it was not possible to say where the gull responsible for the attack came from.

Landlords Riverside Inverclyde (Property Holdings) disputed Mrs Kelly's claim that it did not take sufficient care of her safety.

The court heard how a nearby rubbish dump was a magnet for gulls which nested on the old Victorian school building in Pottery Street.

Aggressive gulls

They were said to become aggressive when they had chicks.

The judge was told of people dashing in and out of the Pottery Street building using umbrellas and how garages in the vicinity flew helium balloons to protect their cars from droppings.

Mrs Kelly, 59, from Glasgow, claimed there had previously been patrols using owls and hawks to try to get rid of the menace.

She said that she stopped for lunch on 17 June last year and planned to head for a nearby burger van to buy something to eat.
The court heard seagulls nested on the old Victorian school building

She said it was impossible to see through the stained glass of the door as she went outside.

"I walked out the door and I barely got to the bottom of the steps and this gull came for me at full speed, wings outstretched, coming right for my face," she said.

"I realised I would never get to the van so I had to get back into the building for safety."

Mrs Kelly said: "It was screaming at me. I was terrified. I thought it was going for my face.

"I couldn't look up to see it because it was right over my head and I really thought it was going to hurt me. I was shouting but it would not go away."

The court heard how as Mrs Kelly turned to go back inside her left shoe came off and she stumbled onto the steps.

"I was badly winded and I was in instant pain. It was very painful," she said.

'Shaken and distressed'

Court papers said the incident left Mrs Kelly, who worked for CVS Inverclyde, "shaken and distressed".

She was off work for two weeks. then took to carrying an umbrella to protect herself as she made her way to and from her office.

Experts on gull behaviour told the court that the birds were "free wild creatures" protecting their young - but where a chick was found was no indication as to where it had come from.

In rejecting Mrs Kelly's claim, the judge said the crucial question was whether the attacking gull came from the LBC building and this could not be known.



Seagulls Don't Drink or Smoke (22 July 2011)


Seagulls are my least favourite creatures in the world - by a mile.

To my mind they are the vermin of the skies - and for the life of me I can't understand why they are a protected species.

Now my grievances against gulls are many, varied and deeply held - so let's get a few of their worst characteristics on the record.

Seagulls are highly aggressive, territorial birds that live in towns and cities these days - they  make their living by plundering people's rubbish - and by robbing their smaller avian cousins such as magpies.

Seagulls are not possessed of a lovely call or birdsong - instead they squawk and screech raucously - at all hours of the day and night - and without any regard to their neighbours or the noise pollution by-laws.

Worse still - if they have a chick - the ugly, fledgling bird follows its parents around for weeks on end - whistling incessantly as it begs for food.

In Glasgow these foul creatures spread rubbish everywhere littering the streets - crapping on everyone as the go - and seem to live on a diet of chips and half-eaten kebabs.

But they don't drink or smoke - as far as I can tell - so maybe that's the secret of their longevity and success.

As soon as I become Prime Minister - or even the leader of Glasgow City Council - I am going to campaign for a new law to rid us of these pests.

In a humane fashion of course - even though the demons inside me want to exact a terrible revenge.

What's needed is a policy and plan for removing their eggs - replacing them with false eggs - because the birds are too stupid to know any different.

And before you know it - a whole generation or two of gulls get wiped out - and peace and calm is restored to our city centres.

Fookin' Seagulls

I published an article from the Hidden Glasgow web site recently - which had some interesting, if somewhat restrained, things to say about the menace of urban seagulls.

See post dated 6 August 2011 - 'No Mean City'.

But this article also had a number of readers' comments - which made me laugh my head off at the time - and help illustrate why Glasgow is such a funny, crazy place to live.

Even though the city has more than its fair share of seagulls.

Remember - the context of the 'discussion' is how to get rid of these killer birds. 

Re: Fookin seagulls

by crazygray23

purchase a bird of prey, seagulls are scared shitless by them.

Re: Fookin seagulls

by Doorstop

Yeah, I'm popping out to ASDA this morning for a spare Eagle, a replacement Buzzard and a half a pound of Sparrowhawk.

Re: Fookin seagulls

by Reenie Bujman

I'm going to dress up as Wile E. Coyote and use a giant Acme vacuum cleaner to hoover them out of the sky.

(It's quiet on the ward this morning...)

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